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Thomas Chinese cavalry was using captured Japanese Type 32 and the cavalry in Xinjiang province were using Russian Shashka saber until the 1960s, PLA decided to make their cavalry sword based on Type 32 with some improvement.At the time China can't make a decent blade fit the PLA's requirement, Russia has better industry and experiences to make the cavalry sword, so the PLA orders the blade from Russia, then Chrome and make other parts assemble them together at 3521 Arsenal in Nan Jing. Since PLA only has 3 cavalry troop (Xin Jiang, Gan Su, and Inner Mongolia) in the '60s, only a few thousand Type 65 were complete. Around 1985,PLA disarmament about one million troops, PLA kept only around 1000-1200 cavalry and divide them into two-unit, one in Gan Su, and one in Inner Mongolia. Most of the retired Type 65 sword was export to North America around the late 80's-early 90's with other weapons from China. Type 65 is the First and Last cavalry sword of PLA, and it's still in service. Many Chinese collectors want to own one of these sword but can't get the original army issued one in China, so some sword company in China start to make replicas for the market, they are not trying to make Type 32 replica. This sword is greatly improved over the Japanese 1932 sword. It is improved in the following ways: It is longer and more massive. The blade is heat treated in a better fashion. The atresia (not sure what that is/those are) are improved to avoid breakage during aggressive sheathing. The hanging ring is replaces with two hanging rings permitting shoulder carry. The handle texture is improved for a better grip. In addition, this sword is more imposing in appearance that the Japanese 32 sword. The Chinese cavalry troops found this sword to be more useful in horseback attacks typically involving hacking and slicing at the enemy than the Japanese sword which was designed more for purpose of stabbing and detail cutting (maybe a reference to ritual disembowelment). But I think the overall quality is not as good as Japanese Type 32.
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Steve These are not Type 32 wannabe.It is a modern Chinese copy of the original 60's Chinese PLA Type 65 cavalry sword. Although Type 65 is an official copy of Japanese type 32 by PLA.😀 PS:I'm looking to buy the original Type 65 cavalry sword, if any member got one and wants to part with it, please let me know.
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The Scabbard looks like from the replica's, the drag looks kind of odd.Also, Ser#number and the shape of the tip of the blade doesn't feel the right style.Maybe is one of the replica with real NCO handle?
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Whats the Value of this sword group?
BANGBANGSAN replied to WW2UsCollector's topic in Military Swords of Japan
Sell them as a bring back group would be a better idea. The price of the NCO sword has been gone down for at least a year now and gets lower after COVID starts. Plus, in the same condition, The brass guard always more desirable and sold for more than the iron guard. There are many NCO o eBay priced lower than before and can make an offer for it, but still sits there for a long time can't sell. -
Any one?
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One more https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Japanese-NCO-SWORD-MATCHING-NUMBERS-ON-BLADE-SCABBARD/184381304960?hash=item2aedfb7080:g:y10AAOSwOZRfINDc:sc:FedExHomeDelivery!33870!US!-1
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特 means Special. 特殊 特别
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Hi members I'm looking to buy Original Chinese PLA Type 65 Cavalry saber(Not the replicas on eBay) if anyone got one of this please PM me. Thanks Trystan
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I'm back with another cool sword, tell me about it, please
BANGBANGSAN replied to Karenfc's topic in Military Swords of Japan
Side latch is less than copper, but not as valuable though. -
I'm back with another cool sword, tell me about it, please
BANGBANGSAN replied to Karenfc's topic in Military Swords of Japan
I don't think he can sell it for that price in a long time. A much better condition one sold on eBay 2 months ago by ericowazamono for $4000.Another one with matching number but has the tip of the blade chipped sold on eBay for $1850 about 3 weeks ago. I'm starting to think copper Handel NCO sword is not that rare compare to some other WW2 period Japanese sword. On my observation, there are around 10 copper handle NCOs (a couple of them don't have match scabbard)sold online worldwide from 2019-2020, price from $1800-$4000, most of them around $2500-$3000. -
Iwo Jima Shin Gunto? (help with sword smith)
BANGBANGSAN replied to zook's topic in Military Swords of Japan
兼光Kanemitsu -
Fortunately , as far as I know , those swords with Fake Mei were made in China for the Chinese market(try to fool the inexperience collector). It's very hard to get the swords into China legally, most of the time they use the "grey clearance" channel in Hong Kong to smuggling swords into mainland China. Since China enact National Security Law from NPC to HK a few weeks ago, It's going to be very difficult to do so. Even before this law passed, it's harder to get them out of China then get in. The collectors outside of China shouldn't be that terrified about it just yet, but we do need to be more careful though.
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Tang look kind of new to me
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Neil Thanks for sharing, here is what's on your tag 支隊本部 Detachment Headquarter 陸軍曹長 Army NCO officer 赤城竹千代 ?Akashiro Take Chiyo ? Not very sure about the name since it's too blurry.
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White Russian Japanese Unit
BANGBANGSAN replied to Bruce Pennington's topic in Military Swords of Japan
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Opinions on 2 swords, and translation
BANGBANGSAN replied to chosen_mosin's topic in Military Swords of Japan
Steve, Thanks for the correction. -
Opinions on 2 swords, and translation
BANGBANGSAN replied to chosen_mosin's topic in Military Swords of Japan
Surrender tag Left row-價格一四伍(0)円 Price 145(0) Yen 荒卷良太郎 Aramaki ryo taro Right Row-三潴郡大莞村一代溝(Mizuma gun ooimura ichi dai mizo in Fukuoka 福岡県) The price kind of looks like 1450, but that would be way too expensive for a Showa blade at the time,I think 145 is more reasonable. -
Nice looking FAKE type 95 NCO sword
BANGBANGSAN replied to BANGBANGSAN's topic in Military Swords of Japan
Maybe try to copy the Ser# style on type 32's scabbard? -
Saw these photos of a fake Type 95. The painted handle and scabbard color look very nice, even though there were still some parts not correct compared to the real one, but it will fool a lot of people for sure.
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Saw these photos of a fake Type 95. The painted handle and scabbard color look very nice, even though there were still some parts not correct compared to the real one, but it will fool a lot of people for sure.
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Both 研師-Polisher and 刀匠-Swordsmith has the title and full name written down. I think my idea-調之 adjusted this make sense.
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Neil Take a look at my reply, and see what do you think about my idea about 調之