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It's 社 Mark for the army arsenal subcontractors

I think in that chart,長劍 means saber,短劍 means dagger,短刀 means Waki short kai.

Yes,on the right 軍刀 五二（官品Government property) 二九（私品Privately owned）

I didn't see Ma 77 post on your chart though...

I think Type 95 is Army's property,like Type 30 bayonet and rifles.

@Bruce Pennington @Kiipu One more from Matt’s shop 昭和壬午秋 1942 Autumn マ 七八 Ma 78，it‘s the first 30 Series マ found so far.

I was checking on the file of the surrender swords by IJN in Taiwan in 1945. The list mention 私品（Privately owned)and 官品（Government/Navy property), also said some kind of carry permit in applying process for the Privately owned sword. We all know the Type 95 NCO sword was issued by the army and its army property. It got me wondering what kind of Kai Gunto was issued by IJN? I'm thinking maybe the double hanger black paint wood saya, with Navy anchor logo on the tang and no smith mei, like the photos I'm posting, what do you guys think?

Neil I'm not an expert on the uniform. But seems 军属（Civilian work for the army）wearing different uniform and insignia?

I think this 大 mark is Izumo Taisha (Izumo Grand Shrine/出雲大社) 。Hence:Slough's book, page 82: Tai stamp appears on late war blades made by smiths associated with the Izumo Seiko steel works. Located in Shimane. The forge was located near the Izumo Taisha shrine and by 1945 the country was in dire need of divine assistance. @Bruce Pennington@Kiipu

Thomas I got more photos of that sword, It has 江 Mark indeed. It's in the Kai gunto mount.

I asked him again if he can find more photos or details, he found one more photo （not full tang,I'm sorry)with 南 mark, and partial Mei shows it's not KOA he said it's 滿鐵鍛造之。

Thomas Unfortunately, I do not have other photos,I would already post them if I have more. But for the 2 photos I have,lt looks like eBay seller ericowazamono's old sell，he might still have photos of that sword in his data.Our member @Ontario_Archaeology just bought a 1938 Mantetsu N356 from him not long ago.

Bruce As I said, these are all the photos I've been provided. I asked already, no other photos, not my friend's swords, he just found photos for me from some old file he saved a long time ago.

@Kiipu Thomas Do you think the mark on the blade is the same mark as the 大 Mark？It says on Fullers Page 226, Dai(or Tai) stamp. Significance unknown.Has only been found on blades dated 1945. Very rare.

@Bruce Pennington @Kiipu Here is a few more 1.昭和戊寅秋 1938 Autumn M61 2.昭和辛巳春 1941 Spring カ二三六 Ka 236 3.昭和壬午秋 1942 Autumn ヤ二0一 Ya 201 4.昭和癸未春 1943 Spring テ三0五 Te 305 That's all the photos I have.

Here is 小野田宽郎‘s Gunto

Bruce I watched that show, the handle of Baba Voss's word seems very long

Those 2 wood saya RS, one is my friend's, one is from the internet. Both are not likely Gendai but arsenal blade. The one I use to have is in the metal saya cheaper version, not Gendai blade, but I forgot if there is any arsenal mark or numbers on the tang, it was a long time ago.

My friend had a better fitting RS with a mumei blade, it seems arsenal made with the number. There is another one just like he's, and has a very close number.

@Kiipu Thomas Here is my 小倉陸軍造兵廠 gunto, date 昭和十九年六月，no star.

兼湞作？

I used to have one of these Mumei RS when I started collecting Gunto years ago, but I didn't take any photos of the tang.

Is that Kai a Waki?

This Kanji should be 國泰 instead of 國奏