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Omar Thirty two tsuba shown, I had no trouble finding google translate top of the page double click right.

Tom As George says you can eventually remove the rust with antler or ivory, I make my own 'cleaners' from long cuts from thick cow bone which when boiled for an hour will last indefinitely. These three types are used because while they will remove active rust they won't scratch the solid iron. I also agree don't play with the gold areas. The guard looks very nice with a heck of a lot of detail, you are starting with a fine example.

George The bulk of the guard is cast in some sort of alloy- heavy- the monkey is separately cast and has a hole in his hand that attaches to the guard, all the extra's are painted on - some better than others I think the monkey is secured with some sort of glue as well because mine came off and that's the way I repaired it. The sharp eyed may notice the monkey has been set in the hitsu-ana in this second example. Mine is set like the first example but I have seen about fifty/ fifty so it may have depended on who assembled them. Also my example didn't have all the casting faults as the second obviously does, so the quality control must have eased off. They are decorative but I don't suggest they are usable. The back of his jacket is detailed - the original must have been really nice. Saru in a Silk Shirt?

Just a heads up on another non-tsuba that appears from time to time. These desk ornaments were made back in the late 70's, not the 1870's, the 1970's. They were made as museum replicas for a travelling exhibition on Japanese swords and sword furniture, I know because I went to it in Sydney about 1979.(yes I am that old) I have seen these passed off as genuine mounted examples of Edo work and some have the bases removed to make them 'serviceable'. As a replica I paid $40 which was fairly high priced at the time, but some are now being sold for $400 or more - another is on auction right now - opening bid $20 which sounds fair but I wouldn't bid much more!

David I have a quote from one of the early experts on tsuba, who was instrumental in many ways on introducing the West to this field of Japanese study. "The followers and students of some masters took the name of the founder of the workshop and adopted the use of his signature; so various qualities of execution of guards appear and without counting the constant counterfeits, many pieces can bear the name of a famous artist. It is therefore preferable to appreciate the execution of the work before reading the signature, which is important only when the work is authentic; so I refrained from mentioning it." Tadamasa Hayashi (林 忠正, 1853–1906) This is translated from French (by me) so it may have lost a little in translation - being now third hand. But I think what he meant most was basically forget the signature, appreciate the guard. Regardless of who did it, if you like it, that's all that is important. I think it is a nice piece.

Grev. try here https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/402254193496?hash=item5da837e358:g:-~kAAOSwN2VZWGX5 or one closer to home https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/402257393392?hash=item5da868b6f0:g:CNAAAOSwy1ZdM14L http://www.worldstamp.nl/products/expo-70-international-exposition-osaka-Japan-2v/ https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/123645307516?hash=item1cc9d5aa7c:g:HdcAAOSwN3lcZSbB eBay have a few they vary a lot in price and postage is often the killer. One here in Sweden for anyone local? https://www.tradera.com/item/150317/342616100/afars-issas-osaka-expo-70-guldmarken-mi-43-44-xx They look good in the film display cases. Have fun.

Well I have looked and looked for any other tsuba related postage stamps and come away disappointed. That was untill I remembered that here in Australia we can order our own stamp designs - so I thought why not? It then became a problem of what guard to display, I tried several but this is a case of the more detailed the image on such a small surface the less you actually see, so that I finally went for a stark outline guard against a black background - the heart shape indicative of my 'love' of tsuba. So if you still use snail mail - why not get your own stamps printed!

You could perhaps clear the white residue off simply by boiling in demineralized water, that should not damage any remaining patina.

Hi David, I think somewhat like you, that anyone will sign uniquely every time (whether they choose to admit it or not) so I am more wary of mei that are exactly like the 'established' examples - if you want to fake, you copy the signature exactly - if you are the true artist the signature will simply flow and change over time. However if this holds true, no amount of expert opinion can say with absolute certainty that any piece is by the original artist. - even Shinsa experts get it wrong sometimes. I like the fact that your guard has been mounted multiple times and the slightly raised rim, but there is very little, by way of decoration.

To prove the case that these things are still being made and the sellers are not reluctant to sell in batch lots, check these 'Drink - coaster' quality repro's https://www.jauce.com/auction/u351947663

I am glad someone has tried these cases out, since my post back on the 12th April. As I said at the time I have had several items displayed for about 4-5 years with no damage. I don't collect Fuchi/kashira but they look good displayed this way and you get a full view both sides - next step they need to come up with a magnifying screen for the smaller items https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Clear-Jewelry-Suspended-Coins-Floating-Display-Case-Stand-Holder-Box-Easy-Use/133196048734?var=432540555804&hash=item1f031a695e:g:jAkAAOSwl3xb0BhQ They do slightly larger cases than the 90 x 90, and shop around as these sites can vary in price week by week.

George M What fascinates me is the range in quality of these fakes, they range from beautifully detailed with great iroe (though no inlay) to others so coarse that the features are almost totally lost. The same applies with the 'geisha pulling the tongue of the monster' examples, as well as the 'Oni and Futen'. Both appear in large numbers and no doubt other examples apply. I am aware that many fakes/ copies were made for glass cased sale items but I don't know if they were intended as domestic decoration in Japan or purely for export. It is an interesting side to serious collecting - I fear for novice collectors.

John Thank you for that, I found a photo of the guard with the name SATOYOSHI-saku. Saku is the name of a town near Nagano but I don't know what schools made this place home.

You can have this image - I believe it to be Nishigaki - but having it assessed.

I bought this guard in Tokyo back in 2014 at an antique market, and lost the translation of the mei. Any help would be appreciated, I have seen similar designs assigned as Nishigaki would this be a good bet?

There are a lot of altered guards out there, some were obvious castings that broke and were cut down others were modified for who knows what reason. These are some of mine - novelty items.

Sebastien V. "The Catalogue of the Collection of Japanese Sword-guards" Louvre Museum, a gift of Mr. Tadamasa Hayashi (1894) the original french title is below Catalogue de la Collection des gardes de sabre japonaises au Musée du Louvre : Don de M. Tadamasa Hayashi de Tôkiô https://bibliotheque-numerique.inha.fr/collection/item/8745-catalogue-de-la-collection-des-gardes-de-sabre-japonaises-au-musee-du-louvre Louis Gonse's "L'art Japonais" 1883 https://archive.org/details/lartjaponais02gons/page/n6/mode/2up "Chefs - D'oeuvre D'Art Japonais" by Gaston Migeon 1905, I have lost it seems, though a translated version can be found with the other two French examples in my book "Early Articles for Tsuba Study 1880-1923 Enlarged Edition" https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=30492380042&searchurl=sortby%3D17%26tn%3Dtsuba&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-image1

Pietro If you are interested mainly in sukashi guards there is always the old standby "Early Japanese Sword Guards Sukashi" by Masayuki Sasano you can find it on the net in many spots, this link is one but if you search you can get copies at cheaper prices. I bought a first edition from Japan recently for as little as $35. https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/early-Japanese-sword-guards-sukashi/author/masayuki-sasano/ I would agree with John, the Church collection at the Asmolean museum, Oxford is a great store of information though some schools are a little thin. I did a book on this museum myself - turned into four volumes of over 1,000 pages, so you can see its well worth a look. This link takes you straight to the tsuba from the Church collection, but there are other tsuba in the Museum not from the Church collection if you search for them. http://jameelcentre.ashmolean.org/collection/7/10237/10338 There is a wealth of information amongst the members of NMB on tsuba of all kinds and some book authors as well in the group (including myself) There should also be a wealth of books in French available, I have translated a few into English, but they are no doubt better in the original language. Some old references like Louis Gonse's "L'art Japonais" 1883 and "The Catalogue of the Collection of Japanese Sword-guards" Louvre Museum, a gift of Mr. Tadamasa Hayashi (1894) and also "Chefs - D'oeuvre D'Art Japonais" by Gaston Migeon 1905. You can find these on-line as PDF's. They may be somewhat out of date but they are free and written at a time when tsuba study was "fresh". A better book on the basics of tsuba schools than the Peaboby collection, I personally think is, "Japanese Sword Guards-Art of War" [Gary D. Murtha] There should be a disclaimer with tsuba collecting - you can never stop at just one!

Steve W. "I might add here that something profound is lost when "present-day craftsm[e]n," however technically skilled, produce works that simply copy the designs of the "groping" artist whose works emerged organically, and with piercing resonance, out of the zeitgeist of a time and place. The resulting authenticity of the latter, with vanishingly few exceptions, simply cannot be captured by the former, regardless of his "superior" abilities. " Does this opinion include the miriad utsushi or only "present-day craftsm[e]n," (noting the original quotation was taken from 1914 and not the present time). It is my understanding that a great deal of utsushi have added qualities that often surpass the original, being not mere copies but emulating the spirit. A further quote from Wikipedia - "Utsushi is simply not copying or reproducing a masterpiece or motif from the past. Instead, Utsushi promotes a dialogue between the artist and the masters of the past, connecting past, present, and future."

Ford. This is taken from: Terry's Japanese Empire, [COPYRIGHT 1914] Terry, T. Philip (Thomas Philip), 1864-1945. This extract from a section on Curios - tsuba, sword fittings and netsuke: "In this connection it is worth remembering that many modern works of art are in reality much superior to those of the past. The present-day craftsman is often much defter than his groping prototype, and where equally good materials are employed, new work is not infrequently preferable to the old."

Some Hirata had only partial fills of enamel. So perhaps only the closed portions would have been enameled? Just an idea.

Nothing better in lockdown than counting feathers on a 'chook' [ chicken for all you non Aussies] You notice the birds crest on your examples? Not represented on all examples, why?

It looks like the Hirata school - who forgot to include the enamel - is it possible it is unfinished work?

Ron STL http://www.shibuiswords.com/owarimikawa.htm Looks like the book and english translation has sold but they may lead you to another copy. Both iron and kinko are included. Hope this is some help.

Barry Hennick This is off thread a little but - There are an awful lot of sellers who proclaim their pieces are, 'unique' - 'only one of its kind' - 'original'. Even way back in 1884 George Audsley said "Although we have, in the course of our studies, examined thousands of guards, we do not remember ever to have seen two exactly alike." - he should have got out more! One example in his own collection may look very familiar to many NMB Members. Back on thread. Here is one you can't hold a candle to! This one is mine - not very well made at first sight, but when you consider it is only 14mm wide, shakudo within a fukurin its not so bad. Probably part of a tobacco pouch clasp. I am considering having it mounted as a type of signet ring. You will note it shows the ura side - the omote is covered by back fiitings, that's assuming it is decorated at all on that side.