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John c. At least you can rule out any casting possibilities with your 'twins'? I would like to know if a lack of size difference rules out a daisho? Are there any hard and fast rules involved? These two pieces turned up from the same seller within a week of each other, the size difference is minimal [if in fact the dimensions given are correct?] The image with the matting background shows a more marked size difference. Same pattern and some of the same tool marks, perhaps a gap in time of manufacture?

An even cheaper priced book seller, with the Cleveland collection. https://www.discoverbooks.com/Tsuba-in-the-Cleveland-Museum-of-Art-D-R-Raisbeck-p/1006769781.htm also Abe-books https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?cm_sp=SearchF-_-topnav-_-Results&kn=Tsuba in the Cleveland Museum of Art&sts=t

Just released a new book on the "Tsuba in the Cleveland Museum of Art" The book is 344 pages with 310 guards in total, with a few comparison examples found in other museum or private collections. So far available from Amazon and Barnes & Noble. [I have to say I am not impressed with Amazon's price] Let me say thank you to a number of NMB members who were of great assistance with information. https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=ISBN%3A+9781006769788&ref=nb_sb_noss https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/tsuba-in-the-cleveland-museum-of-art-d-r-raisbeck/1139857558?ean=9781006769788

I am sorry I can't give an opinion on whether the tsuba are Ko -Nara but I have dredged up two additional images - one a very close match to yours and an older grainy image close to the other example. Perhaps the images may be of some use.

Bob try this link and attachment https://www.jauce.com/auction/e443156025 This tray is in coloured iron and was made by one of the 'nambu-tekki' companies.

Robert there is another interpretation of rats and rice : "Prosperity implied by absence" "Since ancient times there has been a belief that a house with rats must be wealthy. After all only the wealthy had excess food that the rats could eat. The very poor peasants had no excess food and hence no rats! It developed that the theme of rats (or mice) rummaging through the rice sacks meant prosperity even though no obvious display of wealth was portrayed." As you have said the guard must have started out as Tachi otherwise the design makes no sense with the mouse hanging upside down relative to the blade edge, correct me if I am wrong but tachi koshirae did not incorporate kozuka or kogai so the hitsu-ana must have been added at a later date to fit a Katana. Is this similar to the winnowing basket ornament your mother had? [this one is mine I purchased recently from Japan]

Regards no.72 has anyone noticed the starving condition of these animals - is this deliberate? Perhaps showing that in order for the farmers prosperity something has to suffer?

Yes aggressive miniature versions of Bull ants [40mm] - sting like a wasp and they keep stinging. Caused at least four deaths between 1980 - 2000. Big mandibles but the stinger is in the tail, Jack Jumper size: 12 to 14 mm (0.47 to 0.55 in) They can jump 10cm repeatedly when defending themselves. Ants and more ants - https://www.jauce.com/auction/g535098108

Can you believe it John, there are people who have never seen a Cyberman? What next, are Daleks just figments of our imagination ? -- I don't think so! EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE

Here in Tassie we have just set up a new Basketball team called the Jack-Jumpers [based on our rather nasty ant species] Imagine my surprise at this tsuba ! https://www.jauce.com/auction/w482203685 similar or what? [it was either the Jack-Jumper logo or Cyberman!]

And another https://www.jauce.com/auction/x786125475

Hi Yas don't give up - [ Who would I talk to! ] We would all rush out and buy junk like this - https://www.jauce.com/auction/b563922550 just because it has a Ghost and a skull on it!

I think this is the quality to make into a belt buckle! https://www.jauce.com/auction/o485879879

Wow that is beautiful!

I think it is made by the same people who make these modern 'replicas' https://www.jauce.com/user/dj2hmyuc you will notice the similarity of the raised rims. These are regularly released in various patterns harking back to very early designs.

You might find that the 'black' rust will protect the blade from destructive 'red' rust - that's one reason most tsuba are the colour they are. A black blade is better than no blade.

Thank you all, Pietro is not far off the mark - It cost me $75 AUD. Plus no shipping which is very unusual. It was bought on a Sunday from a little old lady in a country village, who was surprised anyone would pay so much for an old piece of metal - sounds like a fairytale For those who haven't seen this particular fairytale take a few minutes to read this wonderful nostalgic story. http://www.tsukamaki.net/PDF/gary_montgomery01.pdf

Paul Having it in hand it is easy to see the tool work around the seppa-dai and the weight and colour [something that often does not come across well in pictures] I have noticed in the past some people dismiss a lot of images as being castings, so it was more of a heads up that it isn't - don't worry seen many that are, even bought a few!

Sorry I meant to put the dimensions = 75mm x 70mm x 4.5mm There is some wear on the flower heads.

I spent the day going to a well known market here in Tassie - Evandale near Launceston - not much there really but just by chance I visited a little Antique shop in the town - and hit the Jackpot! I haven't found a tsuba in an actual Antique shop in nearly forty years, but today I found a genuine shakudo piece with gold chrysanthemums on both sides. Have a guess what I had to pay - [no it is not cast, don't even go there ]

Thanks Richard - I think we often forget that these pieces were owned over centuries and were sometimes modified for fashion or practicality. It is sometimes possible to gild the lily and make 'improvements'. [even though as Bob has pointed out the 'improvements' are beginning to fall out!]

I have two guards that I would like opinions about. The first is I 'think' Ko-Katchushi? with a Dote-mimi. The second I am wondering about the theme, is it dragon in clouds or dragon in water? I haven't seen this swirling background before.

Just a guess at the layout and texture, I would say 'cobblestones' 石畳 Ishidatami

There are many gourds grown in Japan - each has slightly different leaf patterns. This example is of a 'Bottle gourd'