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A cheap and the usual condition [nasty] on eBay now https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/307009738153 The seller usually deals in very ordinary pieces but reasonable starting prices - it is not his fault there are people who want to pay too much!
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NO NO NO! Sorry Pown, these are always cast! 99% also have lost the face of the man - it was "glued" on and not truly inlaid. There are two sizes as well [The horses head is positioned slightly differently]. The difference in detail is because the moulds wear out - some were reworked but minimally Very rare "intact" version Don't feel too bad the Victoria & Albert Museum [V&A] also has one in its collection - so I guess you could say you have a "Museum Quality Tsuba" https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O466167/tsuba/ or in reality even the biggest museums have little idea of the authenticity of their pieces. Is it too late to send the thing back and ask for a refund?
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Well I think Jason has it correct, the two on the right are indeed fakes - however when you look at the prices some on eBay are charging for one fake, the $400 for two "real" plus two throwaways is not that bad! https://www.ebay.com/itm/287338935344 Also found in the Cornell University Museum https://emuseum.cornell.edu/search/98.103.017 Like many museums it has several cast fakes! You are right to give the auction a miss - or you could ask if the lot can be split, unlikely as how would the owner get rid of the fakes!
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You might be looking at the style the wrong way around - French Art Nouveau took its inspiration from contact with the Japanese. French Art Nouveau was profoundly influenced by Japanese art and design. This cross-cultural exchange—often referred to as Japonisme—sparked a revolution in European visual culture following the opening of Japanese trade in the mid-19th century. Art Nouveau artists broke away from rigid European traditions of perfect symmetry, favoring dynamic, off-center framing and diagonals inspired by Japanese masters. So I guess why it looks Art Nouveau is because the Japanese invented it! Perhaps the style should be called "Art Nihon"?
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This thread might help !
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No help with the meaning or translation, but I find the mirror symmetry very unusual. Perhaps it is just made to give the impression it is "ancient"?
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You can check the size of the circular punch marks making up the background, at the time the guard would have been made the punch would have been hand made [possibly by the same smith as the tsuba itself] if the punch marks are identical size it would not be surprising that both guards were made by the same tools and at least possible the same person - of course the tools could be handed down from one smith to another. Getting back to your first guard I just noticed it has a "Fukure" - a blister in the metal surface where the folding of the metal has failed to adhere and peeled up. Not uncommon. A "fukure" guarantees the guard is not cast.
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What do we think of this one? https://www.jauce.com/auction/x1233653264 Repro or the real thing?
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Haven't we all! I sometimes put this little thought in my head - "Could I have made this piece as well as it is, for the price I actually paid for it?" - The answer invariably is NO. Doesn't mean I wouldn't like a better one, but it helps just a little.
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Thoughts on a Wakizashi Habaki w/ Single Aoi Leaf Cutout
Spartancrest replied to Klink's topic in Tosogu
Dean, I think you will find plenty of cut out habaki in this thread - it is very extensive and might take some time. -
https://tokka.biz/fittings/TS291.html https://www.seiyudo.com/tu-080813.htm https://www.lotsearch.de/lot/a-french-watch-case-repurposed-as-a-nanban-style-tsuba-38922103
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Wangata are mounted opposite to a basket hilt the cupped/indented side faces the blade not the grip. There is a theory that the design keeps water and dust from getting into the saya [just a theory IMHO] Most Wangata tsuba would not fit very well into the hand if mounted like European cup hilted weapons- the size would tend to cut into the hand, the exception being the huge example seen below A HUGE novel mounted example [recycling a childs Kasa or Jingasa] and a more conventional mounted piece. I have at least four Wangata examples. Similar theme and design [A bit more "up market?"] https://tsuba.jyuluck-do.com/TU10197.html Video link: https://www.google.com/search?q=Wangata+tsuba&oq=wangata+tsuba&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggAEEUYOzIGCAAQRRg7MggIARAAGBYYHjIKCAIQABiABBiiBDIHCAMQABjvBTIHCAQQABjvBTIKCAUQABiABBiiBNIBCDczNThqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:4d96ccfc,vid:ZZQ6A-pRfqA,st:0
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Tsuba in everyday objects - the culture of Tsuba
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Who has some spare cash? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/397817591639 Antique Tiffany Studios LCT Iridescent Blue 4" Tsuba Favrile Glass Tile OTHER EXAMPLES OF TSUBA TILES EXIST, IN VARIOUS COLOURS- JUST VERY HARD TO FIND AND EXPENSIVE! -
Something similar? https://www.jauce.com/auction/c1101293589# This one looks like a rough wire wheel has been run over it! This is mostly ruined and not worth the asking price. Seeing a cloud dragon is generally viewed as a powerful, auspicious omen but there is also the Divine Emperor Myth: Historically, early Japanese emperors were believed to be descendants of dragons. Because the dragon was viewed as an incredibly divine, celestial being, it was a common belief that actually seeing a full, whole dragon would cause a mortal to perish from its sheer power. So parts of the dragon were obscured or could only be seen on the opposite face. It might be a liberty but most large collections will likely have a similar example ["dragon" collectors may have several]
