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From Markus index of Japanese swordsmiths (Nihonto meikan translation) Kaneiwa (兼岩), Bunmei (文明, 1469-1487), Mino – „Kaneiwa“ (兼岩), „Nōshū Seki-jūnin Kaneiwa“ (濃州関住人兼岩) Kaneiwa (兼岩), Eishō (永正, 1504-1521), Mino – „Kaneiwa“ (兼岩), „Nōshū Seki-jūnin Kaneiwa“ (濃州関住人兼岩) Kaneiwa (兼岩), Eiroku (永禄, 1558-1570), Mino – „Kaneiwa“ (兼岩), „Nōshū Seki-jūnin Kaneiwa“ (濃州関住人兼岩), gunome-midare in nioi-deki or nie-loaden ō-gunome-midare to hitatsura Kaneiwa (兼岩), Tenshō (天正, 1573-1592), Mino/Kaga – „Kaneiwa“ (兼岩), „Nōshū Seki-jūnin Kaneiwa“ (濃州関住人兼岩), this Kaneiwa moved later in his career to Kaga province Kaneiwa (兼岩), Genroku (元禄, 1688-1704), Mino – „Kaneiwa“ (兼岩), „Nōshū Seki-jūnin Kaneiwa“ (濃州関住人兼岩)
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What are your thoughts on this signature?
Jacques replied to Mark's topic in General Nihonto Related Discussion
According the Nihonto meikan Nagatsuna never signed Awataguchi Nagatsuna 粟田口長綱, I would think it's gimei.. -
Transition from koto to shinto periods
Jacques replied to Mikaveli's topic in General Nihonto Related Discussion
Worth reading https://www.nittetsukou.co.jp/eng/karematuzawa/2.html -
Transition from koto to shinto periods
Jacques replied to Mikaveli's topic in General Nihonto Related Discussion
Slightly erroneous: sand iron is not suitable for blast furnaces, so ore must be imported. The tatara will continue to operate alongside the blast furnaces. -
It's not just the hada that characterizes a smith or a school. Having said that, without having the blade in hand, I can't say anything - the photos don't show much.
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Transition from koto to shinto periods
Jacques replied to Mikaveli's topic in General Nihonto Related Discussion
The major difference between koto and Shinto is the way steel is made. In Koto, it's the swordsmiths who make it, but this is no longer the case in Shinto, which means that the steel loses the specific characteristics of each region and becomes uniform. -
The third stroke on the left of the kanji Kuni is reversed, that indicates a work of the nidai.
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If you are not in a very wet environment you can avoid oil. It's that i do for decades.
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Kanji Kuni clearly says that it's the nidai.
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Interesting hamon pattern or NOT?
Jacques replied to RichardY's topic in General Nihonto Related Discussion
I don't think it's sunagashi (too far from nioiguchi), I'd say it's a tempering problem. -
Make your choice (from Shoshin's site) HIDEKUNI MEI-JI 1868 AIZU MEIJI HIRONOBU TEI-KYO 1684 YAMASHIRO/KII SHINTO HIRONOBU GEN-JI 1864 MUSASHI SHIN-SHINTO IYETSUGU KAN-EI 1624 YAMASHIRO SHINTO KANEHIRO KAN-BUN 1661 HIZEN SHINTO KANEKURA TEN-WA 1681 MINO SHINTO KANENOBU SHO-HO 1644 MINO SHINTO KANENOBU KAN-BUN 1661 MINO SHINTO KUNIHIDE GEN-ROKU 1688 OSAKA SHINTO KOBAYASHI KUNITERU (same as KUNIHIDE) KUNIMORI KAN-EI 1624 MINO SHINTO KUNITAKE TEI-KYO 1684 YAMATO SHINTO SUKEKANE (same as KUNITAKE) KUNITSUNA KAN-EI 1624 BUNGO SHINTO YUKIHIRA (same as KUNITSUNA) KUNIYUKI KAN-BUN 1661 BUNGO SHINTO MASAKATSU TEN-PO 1830 HIGO SHINTO MASANORI KAN-BUN 1661 ECHIZEN SHINTO MASAUJI KAN-EI 1624 BINGO SHINTO MOTOHIRA KAN-SEI 1789 SATSUMA SHINTO MOTONOBU SHO-TOKU 1711 SETTSU SHINTO MOTOOKI KEI-O 1865 AIZU SHIN-SHINTO MOTOUJI KAN-BUN 1661 MINO SHINTO MUNEKUNI GEN-ROKU 1688 MUSASHI SHINTO NAOHIRO KA-EI 1848 BUNGO SHIN-SHINTO NAOYUKI GEN-BUN 1736 BUNGO SHINTO NOBUSADA TEN-MON 1532 YAMASHIRO KOTO NOBUSADA KAN-EI 1624 HIGO SHINTO NOBUTOSHI TEN-WA 1681 HARIMA SHINTO SADAHIRO GEN-ROKU 1688 OWARI SHINTO SUKEMASA TEI-KYO 1684 OSAKA SHINTO TADATSUGU KAN-BUN 1661 YAMASHIRO SHINTO TADAYUKI KAN-EI 1624 BUNGO SHINTO TADAYUKI TEN-WA 1681 BUNGO SHINTO TAKAMICHI MEI-REKI 1655 OWARI SHINTO TOSHITOSHI MEI-WA 1764 CHIKUZEN SHINTO TSUGUIYE - origin obscure YASUKUNI SHO-TOKU 1711 SATSUMA SHINTO YASUMICHI KAN-BUN 1661 MINO SHINTO YASUSADA KEI-CHO 1596 EDO SHINTO YASUTSUGU KAN-BUN 1661 ECHIZEN SHINTO YASUTSUGU (same as YASUTSUGU) YOSHIMICHI(1) MAN-JI 1658 OSAKA SHINTO YOSHIMICHI(2) EN-PO 1673 OSAKA SHINTO YOSHIMICHI(3) GEN-ROKU 1688 OSAKA SHINTO YOSHINOBU KAN-EI 1624 YAMASHIRO SHINTO YUKINAGA TEI-KYO 1684 BUNGO SHINTO YUKIYASU GEN-JI 1864 SATSUMA SHIN-SHINTO
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This is where the problem lies, we are only interested in the mei if the work is comparable to that of the smith being copied, and we have a very good example with Kajihei who was talented enough to imitate the work (hada, hamon etc.) of high-level swordsmiths, only a thorough study of the mei could allow to see that this sword was gimei.
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You need to buy some books like this one https://www.amazon.com/Genealogies-Schools-Japanese-Swordsmiths-Markus/dp/3839183472
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It was a way of recognizing who had done the work and this practice is almost universal, with the possible exception of the Mishina school. . If you're referring to genealogies, it's well documented.
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Kirill@ The thickness of the kasane depends on the nagasa; 0.7cm kasane on a blade of 75 cm or more is a thin kasane and is a strong kasane on a blade of 65 or less
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Dai-mei or dai saku mei are considered shoshin by the NBTHK, and they know how to detect them The daimei of the Tadayoshi sandai can be recognized by the yasurime, which are slightly katte-agari, and the left tagane of the Hiro kanji square, which is engraved in the opposite direction.
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Kasane is always mesured at the mune; when the kasane is thin with a substantial difference between the kasane and the distance between the 2 shinogi, the shinogi is said to be high.
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It gets even more complicated when it comes to daimei, and there are more of them than you might think.
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I'd also like to point out another feature of Tadahiro's nidai mei: the size of the kanji decreases as you go down from Hizen towards the hiro kanji (requires a trained eye).
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Kikumon is not the right one . https://world-seiyudo.com/product/ka-050121/
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Gimei, the space between the kanji is not correct
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No, the style of the Gassan family's mei is very particular and has nothing to do with the one discussed here; the same goes for the horimono. I must apologise as i'm wrong with the Sanmei's Tanto it's one of Sadaichi, not Sadakazu... ps Sadakazu was an adopted son of Gassan Sadayoshi....
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Obviously gimei https://sanmei.com/contents/media/N16160_T5801_PUP_E.html
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Unfortunately gimei https://www.touken-sato.com/event/katana/2013/11/W-kaneyasu-01.html