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hi Thomas just copy paste whats somebody wrote on this forum ''So I guess the obvious answer is that although they are in the minority, Nihonto with arsenal stamps definitely do exist and can be found out there.'' http://www.militaria.co.za/nihontomessa ... php?t=2404 so i dont what to judge my blade just because the blade have a arsenal stamp! can you give me a link or a picture showing the same little stamp like mine?? all the ''Seki stamp'' i see are bigger! regards Eric P.

hi Brian i know its faster to look directly in the forum link for seeing picture but... i trying to put some pictures on the forum but....that say...........The file is too big, maximum allowed size is 1 MB. how can i load quality picture whit 1mb capacity???? thats why i use imageshack!!! my 5mb macro pictures load very well there!!! and for you M. Trotter .....if you got time to take a look on some picture on imageshack...... i dont know if its a Seki Stamp on my Gunto! but everybody tell me this is Seki stamp!! one thing i know thats the 2 stamps are the same and they are really small i dont have the star stamp i was looking on different webpages to find a symbol like the symbol i got and i never find one...i looking in all the 15 pages of the forum and all Seki stamp i found are larger and are not exactly the same! i dont think my symbol are a bad stamped Seki stamp....maybe a non usual symbol?? on imageshack you can see close shots of the symbol and the too side of the blade i dont know if you will see something i miss in the pictures ! close shot stamp https://imageshack.com/a/0FXq/1 left side blade https://imageshack.com/a/CFXq/1 right side blade https://imageshack.com/a/FFXq/1 i think the best move for me its to find a good Togishi to make a window polish just to be sure ....but i think its probably more this kind of method built blade Richard Fuller book talking about i got... 4. Han-tanren abura yaki-ire-to. Partially forged from mill stock, some folding, differentially hardened using oil. Does have a hamon although it is nowhere near as active as a water-quenched sword, but lacks hada. 5. Sunobe abura yaki-ire-to. Drawn down, forged to shape, not folded. Differential hardened using oil, may have a fairly inactive hamon, but no hada. 6. Mantetsu-to. Rolled from Manchurian railway tracks. Differential hardening using oil, may have a fairly inactive hamon, but no hada. 7. Murata-to. Rolled or drawn, oil hardened but not differentially hardened. Yakiba but no visible hamon and no hada. regards Eric P.

hi George Thank you for being the only person on this forum who wanted to help me identify and determine if my blade is autentique or not. I know that my English is not perfect, but the forums and information are scarce french so I tried my luck here. I will continue my research on another forum where participation of peoples usually do not stop at the sight of a blade that can not be autentique! thank you for the information provided regards Eric P.

hi M.Trotter I would like to thank you for the help and knowledge you bring me would you kindly suggest me a good book that deals with Japanese military sword and could teach me more about the sign of a traditional forged blade? there are some books and I'd like to know which would be best for me i browse all the section arsenal stamp and i dont see any inspection stamp like the stamp on my Gunto i know the star stamp is a good way to determine if the blade are traditionnal built but yesterday i take a look again but no star and no other stamp.... but after a closer look of the blade i see something for me that can be hamon but dont know if im right maybe its waves spot are create by a cleaning stuff.... you can look 3 pictures in macro mode at diferent distance showing what i am talking about on this link.....https://imageshack.com/a/rfHq/1 regards Eric P

hello all hey M.Trotter great info you givin me im happy :D be sure that your info help me you said that you have not seen any work of Sato Kohachi that is nihonto (if nihonto to you refer to a traditional hand made whit tamahagane) but i found on eBay a blade built by Sato Kohachi and maybe its a traditionnal hand made whit tamahagane steel ....you can see it via this link http://www.ebay.ca/itm/CIVILIAN-MOUNTS- ... 1047495009 now i know the built date and the swordsmith name .....so im asking myself about if my Gunto is gendaito (traditionally hand made) or just i sword hand made built whit no tamahagane steel like many other....im not a true collector with a lot of knowledge but i think my Gunto is hand made....but i dont know if its tamahagane steel.....i think the blade was built handmade because when i take a look on the kissaki the geometry is not good...the Ko-shinogi are not the same length .....about + - 1 centimeter longer left side....a machine made Gunto dont have this type of ''mistake'' im right? when i take the saber in my hands the type 3 is heavier more than my Kai-Gunto anti-rust steel. How i can determine if its a traditional tamahagane steel or not? No hamon see on the blade maybe it was remove by a neophyte who wanna polish the blade and remove the hamon? is that possible ? regards Eric P.

hello Thomas thank you for the comment on the leather tsuka I was wondering what materials it was...do you think that would mean this is a late production kai-Gunto because leather is more availlable at end war ? M. Trotter i take 6 pictures that show all the symbols on my type 3 Gunto and i find one more on the top side of the tang and its the same stamp that we can see on the right side type 3 symbols album 6 pictures........https://imageshack.com/a/aa3q/1 i hope this help and thank you for givin me informations regards Eric P.

hello M. Trotter thank you to take a look on my Gunto pictures! after over hundred peoples look at my pictures your the only one who wrote something on it and its apreciate I would have liked more information on the symbols of type 3 gunto, you telling me the sword symbols dated may 1944 the name of the smith are not stamped? on the scabbard there is a old glued paper and on this paper its wrote... family special order blade...traditional soshu school technique... maybe it a lure or false information to fool the buyer... I continued searching the web ..... and yeah we are still pooshing that puk along the ice whit the Canadien in the playoff series regards from Québec! Eric P

hello all im french canadian so my English are not very well but i try my best! my name is Eric first post on this forum and today i wrote to you all in hope of get informations on my 2 gunto and maybe an evaluation and commentaries i have somes questions too the first saber is a kai-Gunto whit Toyokawa inspection marks stamp but im not sure about it! the gunto look very good and the blade are sharp and have really good condition .....i think it's anti-rust blade and she is magnetic the Tsuka look great too but i think its not rayskin under the Tsukaito maybe im wrong! i know the scabbard miss somes parts like 　Semegane Ishizuki... i see the place where they are before all parts of the Tsuba have the same number #7 i tink its a + here a link to take a look of the kai-Gunto https://imageshack.com/a/653q/1 for the second Gunto its a type 3 Gunto whit some symbol on the tang the sword blade are not in good condition,having some fingerprint and little rust or blackshit incrusted in the blade the blade are not sharp like the kai-gunto but still sharp to cut ...the kissaki have a minor damage due to improper use or something like that but can be restored whit minor works but im not a real connaissor i think the blade need a real good pollish at a true workshop for this... but i dont know how the pollish will restaure enough is condition ....i dont know if the best move is...a good polish and restoration or just try to preserve the blade .. i dont know is vallue 2 number found on the fuchi..37 and 80 and the Tsuka are in good condition on the Tang we have some Kanji maybe you can tell me more about... my questions are....what do you recommend to stabilize and clean the blade for the type 3 gunto blade? the value of my Type 3 Gunto is it high enough to warrant more than the Gunto itself-polishing or else it will cost me? What is the value of each Gunto even if it might be simply a visual rating via Photo how cost a real traditionnal polish? here the link......https://imageshack.com/a/u53q/1 any information,tips and commentaries are welcome thank you Eric P.