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oh here is the sword specs for the fellow who was asking.. here are all the details and some pics...

I just had it declared as the value of the shinsa fee which is 27000 yen ,it came with a declaration that it is an antique never got charged a penny.... :D

Hi it only got the hozon paper and not tokubetsu hozon ,i kind of expected it to fail tokubetsu hozon because the maker is chu jo saku rated and its a bungo sword,the blade is lovely though ,near flawless ,shape and curve is nice and polish is pretty good so i suspect it failed tokubetsu just because of its reputation rather than its actual quality ,i really like it and it was a decent price .

well i got lucky ,no duty at all to pay =) here it is...

ah great stuff , i will contact aoi art as they put my sword in for me ,was it just a verbal result or are the papers done and swords are released?

hi all anyone got a result yet from march NBTHK shinsa ??

hi thanks for replys fellows, the sword went for hozon/tokubetsu shinsa via aoi-art ,i expected it to take 2-3 months for the papers and return of the sword but you would think a verbal result would be given after a month perhaps? ah well !

hi any of you good fellows had any results from the march nbthk shinsa yet?

ah! i know that feeling whe dreading the wife find out how much haha! well hope it works out for you Alex stupid question but who are the other good nihonto dealers in Japan? ,i just found aoi-art .

so customs ignore the fact its antique and just charge the vat and duty anyway do you have to appeal the decision and prove its an antique? did you buy a very expensive sword? i bought a palanquin yari a while back and never got charged anything.

hi yes it is signed but the tang was in poor condition, here are the makers details.. Naminohira Yukichika was 61st head of the Saka-no-ue Naminohira branch of the Taniyama Naminohira school of Satsuma. The 57th generation Yasumasa begat three sons who each formed three branch families known by the locality of their locations where they settled. Thus, Yasukuni, the eldest formed the main branch as 58th Head (Honke), Yasumasa, the son of the above formed the Hori branch as 58th Head, and the third son, Yasusumi, formed the Saka-no-ue branch as the the 58th Head (Chaku-ke). Thus, Yukichika was his great-grandson. Yukichika died in Bunsei 3(1820)

fantastic news ,i will ask the fellow at aoi-art to write all over the box that its 350 years old i feel for you fellows if your ordering a 10000 dollar sword ,hey send it to me and i will put it down as 50 bucks for ya haha!

it was shinogi zukuri ,i dont have anything against shorter blades but as i was only looking to buy 1 sword my preference was a 18" to 22" nagasa but when i noticed how beefy it was and that it was in very good condition i just went for it, heres a pic ...

hi mariuszk i have had a hozon papered satsuma shinshinto wakizashi prior to buying this one ,i had to sell it because i wanted a longer blade and the satsuma had only a 14" nagasa , the thing i loved about the satsuma wakizashi was it was so wide 36mm and 30mm at the kissaki . yea i was lucky to get this sword before you adrian ,i was going to buy a more expensive sword at first but decided on this as it was so clean and a good price ,once i read that the samurai of the day liked the bungo swords i thought hey if its good enough for a samurai its good enough for me lol!

Thank you very much for your invitation Peter,i would love to visit a sword show but i would have to find one over here in England,i hope there is something like that over here so i can look at some of the more valuable nihonto in real life rather than just images on the computer. it would be great to visit the sword museum in Japan some day too, i often go to the singapore f1 so if i ever get time i would like to spend a day or two in Japan.

ah great ! thanks for letting me know your opinions,i know the nbthk tokubetsu hozon paper is pretty strict so if it fails its no big deal but if it does pass i hope the aoi-art boss wont be a bit upset that he sold me a tokubetsu hozon sword for this low price! oh! out of interest if someone were to lose the hozon papers for there sword can they purchase new ones from nbthk if you have the ref number?

hi ah ok thanks for the info, what do you think of the sword i bought then,does it look any good ? i know very little about nihonto so i am interested in other peoples opinions , it was quite a cheap sword compared to the others on the aoi-art site but on close inspection i couldnt see any problems with it.

i sold a satsuma wakizashi a while back that was really nice ,not a single forge flaw , it was very beefy indeed with a 3.6mm wide motohaba and 3.0mm wide kissaki, it only had a 14" nagasa though and i wanted something longer so had to sell it. most of the bungos i seen are pretty beefy swords too and this one has a really deep curve and 21" nagasa so i am happy but just wish it was as wide as the satsuma i sold,seems to be quite rare to find the wider blades..

hi yea when i was thinking of buying the bungo wakizashi i tried to read up on the main reasons for the unpopularity of the bungo sword but couldnt really find a good reason ,from what i did read apparently the samurai of the time did highly regard them but its only the modern day collector market seem to rate them less desirable , i just thought this one had a nice shape and not to many forge flaws so went for it ,if it fails tokubetsu hozon its only a 10k yen fee.

Hi and thanks for the replys folks ,i purchased the sword mid february so thought what the hell and asked the fellow at aoi-art to submit it for the march nbthk shinsa for me , i put it in for both hozon and tokubetsu hozon papers so i am just waiting to hear the result,i was told it can take 3 months to hear anything!

hi folks i am quite new to nihonto and only previously owned 1 hozon paperd sword,can any members explain how the nbthk shinsa works because i put a wakizashi in to the 4-6th march nbthk shinsa via aoi-art after buying a sword from them,the fellow says it will take 3 months for the results which is fair enough (its in for hozon and tokubetsu hozon paper) , is it that all the swords must be in from the 4-6th and it takes 3 months to appraise them or are they all inspected in just the 3 days ? thanks for any info

Hi folks just joined the board :D i just bought a bungo wakizashi from the dealer Aoi art in Japan ,it was in for this months NBTHK shinsa which started 4-6th march i . the fellow at aoi art guarantee it will pass hozon paper but is it possible a Bungo sword could pass tokubetsu hozon paper? i understand that bungo swords are not very popular but the work on this one i purchased looks very good and the makers fujishiro rank is chu jo saku ,it has just had a touch up polish, could any members give there opinion on this sword and give any reasons it should not pass tokubetsu hozon ? i would be greatfull for any feedback heres the sword http://www.aoi-art.com/sword/wakizashi/12207.html