Alex A

An "art sword" is what we call a sword when it has to go though customs Ps, this will no doubt irritate some, but who cares. I secretly have trouble calling any sword "an art sword" if it was made solely for use as a weapon. Which is most swords. Art sword for me, sword made just "as art", appreciation, tend to think more along the lines of Shinsakuto. As made,

Reading over the original post again, surprisingly how it has spiraled out of control and into the stratosphere Got to laugh. Its just a Naginata., a reasonably priced one

What I've learned, never be surprised at what folks collect, even folks you think only collect high end stuff. Guido once bought a sword off me from a very modest school........Dotanuki. He was happy with it. Not an "art sword" by the way,. Big old clunker.

Franco, there is nothing more to discuss. I presented a naginata at a fair price for folks seeking a naginata on a budget. Then it turned into this mess. Just a Naginata, not an "arty farty" masterpiece we can all talk about for days on end, for £1200 what do folks expect???????????????????????? Really wish i hadn't bothered, wont happen again. Beginning understand why folks retire Jacques. Not getting into further discussion, not when you talk nonsense. Perhaps you need to study more blades from the likes of Uda, Dotanuki smiths etc. Blanket statements and putting everything in boxes is your weakness, you need to work on it. Perhaps being more specific in future will work better for you.

Would just delete this mess.

Think Jacques had his own forum once, from memory. Wish he still had. Rather than being intent on ruining this one.

Art begins with Jo saku Utter ^^^^^ Brian, please find a way to block folks for good, cant take this any more

No point to this thread now, best just to delete it. Not fair to Aoi Art, being another reason. Wont pull sales ads in future.

The thing about the ignore button Brian is that it don't stop him carrying on regardless Just see further comments when not logged in. If there was a way to totally block someone, id defo be up for that. Ps. I have politely asked him twice to stay away from my posts, but he carries on. Just a professional Troll.

A vast majority of antique swords come under the "historic weapon" category. A lot of the time, not much "art", more function. Luckily, folks like yourself Erik, and the likes of NBTHK recognize they should be preserved. Horses for courses.

Boo, get him off The Dick Dastardly of NMB pathetic.

Jacques, i didn't link it for high flyers like yourself. Again, as explained in the first post , Linked it for folks on a tight budget that are maybe just looking for an original signed naginata with Hozen. What have i told you about staying out of my posts? Stay out.

Don't remember seeing many waks by those guys.

I never stated it was a bargain. Try finding a signed Naginata, in polish, with papers for £1200 in the UK. Its not happening. I think there are always reasonably priced items in that store, but that's just my opinion.

One more thing. Just because you can does not mean you need to go out and spend a fortune (for most) on your first sword. Can get great swords for a lot less. Hell, buy a few cheaper swords, 5 or so, learn a bit Then buy the big one. Guarantee you will appreciate it more

Just thought i would bring this Naginata to the attention of those on a tight budget. For the money, think its very good value. Naginata: Kozuke Kami Sugawara Sukekane (NBTHK Hozon Token) | Japanese Sword Shop Aoi-Art (aoijapan.com)

If you want “art”, buy a Shinsakuto You want a sword as it was made, without wear. Thats just my opinion

After several beers, this idea cropped up. As for future when maybe things get tighter. Folks in the UK, form a business, share any incurred costs Maybe Token society get involved, whoever. Any swords shipped get shipped through business account. Problem solved Might be over/under thinking this, just ideas. In other words, if being an average Joe is going to be a future problem, the average Joe needs to leave the equation.

As always Eva, buy a book first. Don't let others choose for you as you wont appreciate what you have.

Hello James. Being honest, you really will need to get that tsuka sorted out, whoever wrapped the tsuka did one hell of a shoddy job. It ruins the appearance of your sword

Makes me wonder if some dealers with contracts will step up in the future to ship stuff for average Joe Obviously for a fee. Ps, not looked into the ins and out of it but is getting listed with a courier as a "antiques trader" a big deal?, as in do it yourself

I know UPS ships end to end and has their own customs clearance. Same with DHL with one last year. Had one from Fedx recently and pretty sure they delivered it to the door.

Didn't hear back from the local Labour MP, what a surprise. Did hear back from the messenger service asking did i get a reply. Replied, NO. Did hear back from Aoi Art in Japan, see below................... We have not shipped a sword very recently after 24th Jan. We have heard the news that the UK stopped EMS. But still, we can ship a sword by alternative method(company), Fedex or UPS. Kind regards, Aoi Art

For maybe the 9th time, just take a look at the swords of the 47 Ronin True Daisho may have been the goal for some but not always reality for others.

Hi, Samurai did on occasion pair oddball swords and fittings together, its not an exact science. The tsuka look recent and fairly amateur As said though, nothing wrong as a pair for display. Daisho with real old provenance, in untouched condition, rare as hens teeth. Ps, only looked at the koshirae, blade looks out of polish