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Hi Gerry, The sword is signed Bishu Osafune Suke X (not sure of the kanji; the blade has been shortened a bit). It is dated Taiei Ni Nen Hachi Gatsu (August of 1522). It has a ray skin saya (same' saya); after the skin is glued to the wood saya it is lacquered and polished down to what you see today. The tsuba appears to be a meld of Nanban and traditional Japanese made. Grey

Hi Gerry, Yes, it is a good example of a type 95 NCO sword.

Hi Gerry The first ivory….the woodcutter. What you have here is a late Meiji period sectional elephant ivory okimono. The okimono that emerged during mid Meiji are amongst the finest ivory carvings ever created. They can be astonishing works carved from a solid block. The demand for these grew rapidly and to satisfy that demand the ingenious Japanese started to produce similar looking but lower quality works using assorted offcuts of ivory that were worked and cunningly pegged together with expertly concealed joints. They were produced in large numbers by workshops that employed a variety of skills. Different carvers would produce things like the heads, hands and feet whilst lesser talent would carve the various torso components. This was obviously a much cheaper method than using the hugely expensive solid blocks cut from substantial tusks. It was also much quicker due to many people working in collaboration. Your woodcutter is such piece. Don’t know if you have ever looked closely but the head (in this case too big for the body) is separate, the arms are separate joined at the shoulders, the forearms are separate joined where they insert into the robes. The upper torso is separate to the lower joined just above the sash, the legs will be separate etc etc These “lookalikes” are worth only a small fraction of their higher quality monoblock predecessors and of course with current ivory laws etc they are as you say, difficult to sell. Date wise yours is somewhere in the 1880-1910 range. I have had many of these spread across my restoration bench over the years when the glue gives way and they fall apart! Out of interest here is an example of a similar subject from Bonhams but of a much higher quality and value…. I hope I have not offended or disappointed you. All the best Colin

Here is the other tsuba (and thanks for the correction about pluralization).

Chris: I would guess that it's possible. July/August of 1944, the Japanese were still trying to hold on to Guam, Tinian, and New Guinea, among other fronts, as well as Peleiu in September. In addition, Operation Ichi-go was still going on, with over 400,000 troops fighting in China. John C.

Okay !

I think this is a good example of a non-traditional military sword. A mass-produced, machine-made item for World War II.Tsuka forged from a single piece of aluminum. Copper fuchi with Arsenal stamps and identical numbers on the blade and steel saya. Naturally, no hammon is present because Blade is maschine made

Your Type 95 was made by Suya under Tokyo 1st Army Arsenal supervision.

This can happen when copy/pasting from another app or translator program. When pasting, you will be promted with an option to "post as plain text instead", and that will fix the formatting. I recently encountered something similar when copy/pasting from my phone notes app and my text looked good to me, but those in dark mode could not read it. @Gerry123, I'm going to relocate your post to the Nihonto section, because I feel it better fits that category. Like has been said, there is not anything that is obviously military issue that I can dicern. Best of luck, -Sam

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This work reflects more than 20 years of dedicated effort and expertise, and it unquestionably deserves recognition and appreciation. The depth of knowledge, skill, and care that went into it is clearly evident. Dmitry Pechaelov is open and friendly in communication, approachable, and a pleasure to interact with. Shipping within Europe is 20 EUR.

Melting temperature of iron is 1.538°C, cast iron can be melted as low as 1.150°C.

The hidden Christian tsuba brigade are really stretching it: https://www.jauce.com/auction/h1218777130 The fact that there is nothing hidden about the religious nature of this design, plus the fact that it is a cast piece [only designed to be seen on one side at that!] totally negates any idea that it is in anyway real or worth even advertising!

I can tell you exactly what this is provided you don’t get offended. You don’t need to send it anywhere. Should I go ahead?

Here’s a long, actually very long shot, pun included. Neck on line. In 韮山 Nirayama there are the remains of Japan’s first reverberatory furnace where they once made cannon. ‘Barrel made at Nira’ could be got from these two kanji 韮張, assuming of course that the reading is not mistaken, which it could well be. (35% confidence rating) Anyway, just to get the ball rolling, but expecting to get shot down (pun included) at any moment. As they say: “Nothing ventured, nothing gained.”

Here is a really fascinating thread from Nick Komiya about the Type 32 Gunto production. It includes a document on a change in tassel production which I thought was interesting and attached below. https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/Japanese-militaria/system-kaizen-behind-type-32-gunto-production-1930s-788442/ I have two tassels that I beleive display the before/after of this change. Left tassel looks greasy from antique leather conditioner. Regards, -Sam

It would be nice to see closeup of hamon… otherwise so far looks ok

Gerry, the confirmation certificate you need for the possession and trade of ivory is not from City, Citizen, or Cities - it is CITES (Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora). And MEILI era is not "very old" or even "old" in the context of Japanese history, culture and arts, it is recent. You may get information and help from Deutsches Elfenbeinmuseum (https://www.erbach.de/tourismus-freizeit/ausflugsziele/deutsches-elfenbeinmuseum/ )

Hello dear NMB members, Today I wanted to ask about what each hamon state tells about the blade's healthiness. Below are the 4 states of hamon that I've drew. From what I've read, it seems like #1 and #2's difference is only how the polisher polished the blade(something like "make-up" difference), so both are fine and in good condition. #3 and #4 are the ones that confuse me. For #3 I'm assuming the "erasing" occurs because micro scratches make the blade blurry, showing time has quite passed after polishing so it may be good time to get new polish for the blade. I assume that's not a critical flaw. Or maybe that's how blade's tiredness shows? For #4... where quite rough scratches(maybe because of cutting tests or amatur polishing attempts) seem to erase or disconnect hamon, I really have no clue about how I should evaluate the blade when I see them. Are these critical? Or would polishing fix them?

Morning, I acquired this statue from an estate sale last week which I was lucky to snag him, since he has an aura that really wanted me to possess him. I haven't seen anything like this before, would it have been a temple or shrine, or home altar where this statue could've been? overall length is 34 1/2 inches, Fudo is 25 inch without the platform w/ 27 3/8 inches, and the flames are 34 inches There is a bit of damage to the flames and repairs (not by me) are present with nails and glue, some chipping of the black paint on the statue and a missing gem on the forehead which is interesting

Possibly 法光 Hōmitsu (Norimitsu)

The mei is Bishu Osafune xxx (likely Sukesada) and dated 1500's. The mounts are traditional but seem unlikely to have been carried during the war.

Thank you for your assessment and expertise. I'm not disappointed at all; for me, it's still a wonderful piece, and I simply think the craftsmanship is excellent. Thank you also for the other assessment; I was right that it's modern. The inlays are indeed made of ivory; you can clearly see the grain under a magnifying glass

I think Norishige had long departed Sagami before the fall of the Kamakura bakafu as centre of power. He signed some of his later work Saeki (his family/Clan name) and its believed this was used after he had moved back to Etchu and established the forge in Gokafu District. The earliest dated Norishige with full naga-mei is this one from 1319, 14 years before the upheaval. https://www.nihonto-museum.com/collection/exhibit/tokubetsu-juyo-norishige-tanto

Hey guys, been a few years since I posted. but its been that long between buying my 2nd sword. This a late war NCO, serial 204,686. Any idea when manufactured, 1944-45, and at whate locaton or aersenal? Did these ever get to the warfront? Thanks in advance for your help.

Scogg, great information, thank you for your knowledge. Chris

The pair of figures are more modern “gift shop” material and I doubt they contain any ivory. More likely plastic and bone. Apologies!

These figurines Looks for me Like a modern Work. Is this correct?

Thanks to everyone involved. Making these newsletters available and accessible is exactly what makes this forum enjoyable and worthwhile.

Will be there for the third time… There are several hotels in the proximity of the venue, but you have to book early! Carel V is the most convenient, but quite expensive… Guess I know this collector, Brian

There is a Inntel Hotel in the centre of Utrecht https://www.inntelhotels.nl/utrechtcentre/. They give a reduction in price when you have a JAF ticket. It is next to the Utrecht Central Station, a 15 minute stroll from the Karel V. Pierre

Dear Naftali. As Lewis has pointed out the ha machi and mune machi, the shoulders where the habaki sits, are not level and this is a characteristic of Chinese fake swords. However in this case I suspect that someone not familiar with Japanese swords has made a new habaki and modified the blade to 'make it fit'. A proper habaki should have a notch in the back that slips over the blade and fits against the mune machi, the step at the back, while the edge side should have a slot that fits closely around the edge of the blade. If you look closely at the shoulder next to the edge can you see if the blade has been recently modified there? If this is the case then an amateur habaki might also account for the extra set of seppa. All the best.

Red flag? Not familiar enough with WW2 mounts to know if mods were made.

Real one.

Hi Chris, The blade has 関 stamp which is for SEKI = 名古屋陸軍造兵廠関監督班 = Seki Supervisory Unit of Nagoya Army Arsenal. Your sword was likely made around June/July of 1944. No doubt in my mind that it's 100% genuine. Great looking example of the Pattern#5 (or Variation#8) Type 95 Gunto. -Sam (Also, that's a great book )

Wakizashi attributed to the second generation Omi no kami Fujiwara Tsuguhira.

I bought this figure a year ago. The quality is simply incredible.

I like them both — each set has its own character. And yes, according to the origami, it’s a joint work made at the same time. Sokujo and Teijo were cousins. Sokujo lived a very short life and passed away at the age of 31. His son Renjo was four at the time, so although he was the intended successor, uncle Teijo stepped in to take over the mainline, raising and training Renjo until he came of age. Renjo, assumed the position at 25, becoming the 11th-generation head.

Just to balance the discourse a bit. Interesting how many inaccuracies can be presented even here on this single thread webpage and discussion about the 2004 BM exhibition which Victor curated, about what the BM owns and the condition of the swords etc etc. I shall leave it to someone with more time and energy to debunk these notions. And the person in the video …. Well, the curator is different. Just for information to all those who have been moaning and complaining…. The BM is actually one of the more accommodating state-owned museums where a person can request to study in hand their blades. I have personally done it 3-4 times and know of fellow members who do it regularly. As I have studied their top 15 or so blades several times, the urge is lesser, but they have fairly good Shinto/Shinshinto stuff too. There is a procedure to follow but it works and they are open-minded about it and facilitate personal study. So, with a bit of pre-planning and foresight, all of you could have submitted a request, planned your trip/visit accordingly and studied some of the treasures in hand. Go try that in the Tokyo National or other museums.

This is an absolute gold mine Brett! Thank you so much for putting up these links! Just looking through the first issue I found a wonderful analogy worthy of keeping for posterity: "It has been our experience, that the less a collector knows about swords, the more he wants swords with big names. This is quite often the type of collector who refuses to study swords. There is a term in Japan for such people, a tengu. A tengu is an imaginary being with a very long nose like Cyrano de Bergerac, and in Japanese legends a tengu is very strong willed, although being capable of being outwitted or conquered. The term tengu in this case is applied to collectors who know very little but profess to know everything."

I have several examples of tsuba with stacked sekigane in my collection and I always consider this a good thing as these tsuba are of a good enough quality where they have been taken care of and fitted for a blade more than once.

I have one like this. Has seen better days.

An other unusual method of attaching the leather snap strap. It's under fuchi.

I'm considering updating the forum to the latest version, which is a complete revamp of the current software, and has been in development for a number of years. I'm currently trying to raise the $600+ that would be needed to get someone to assist, as it is a huge update with lots of new features and benefits. Frankly, we'll have to do it eventually anyways, as this version 4 won't be supported forever, and it will allow us to improve a lot of things. That aside, I don't have a date yet when we will do it. But there is one thing that I need to warn all members about. Most forums nowadays, across most platforms, are moving away from logging in using your username. This is because usernames are visible to everyone, and it is a security risk when hackers etc use various methods to run common passwords etc. The modern convention is to have everyone log in with their registered email address, and their usual password. This is because emails are not visible and are far more secure. So I am putting this out there now, so that people can start transitioning from logging in using their username, to logging in with their email address. YES...I know how many people can't remember their emails they used, or have changed it by now. Hence why I'm giving everyone plenty of warning to see what your email is here, so you can use to to login. Or update it if you like. Your forum email address is in your profile. You can find it here: https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/settings/ Make sure you know what it is, and probably best to make sure you know what your password is, or reset it if you don't. For now, you can log in with your username OR your email address. But eventually that username won't be a login method. Your username will display as it does currently, no changes there So please start transitioning over, and post here if you have any questions.

Come on Bob, that is just my worthless oppinion but even if a well known idiot like me can tell this is a signed text book example then why would a much smarter person not? On a blade like this there is no room for questions, uncertainity nor interpretation left. So why care for papers? As I said before I am an idiot but not so dumb as I would waste any money or getting confirmed by whoever to what is obvious.