Chishiki Posted May 23, 2020 Report Posted May 23, 2020 Hi folks. I am wanting to buy a muromachi period tachi tsuba similar in shape/style to the pictured one. Please keep a look out for me. Mark Quote
Curran Posted May 23, 2020 Report Posted May 23, 2020 Mark, I think you are right that it was Muromachi period. The seller described it as "Kamakura period". Still, I don't think it was a very good piece. The same seller has another up, but I suspect it is a revival piece or that the silver fukurin was added later. It doesn't look right to me. I've owned 3 over the years. My favorite is now owned by one of our other NMB members, who rebuffed my efforts to buy it back pre-Covid 19. Picture attached from when I owned it. If he wants me to remove it- I will. It was heck of a lot better than the Yahoo!Japan one you posted. Should I see another, I will send you a PM. I enjoy them very much to study, but no longer wish to own them. 3 Quote
Chishiki Posted May 24, 2020 Author Report Posted May 24, 2020 Hi Curran. Thanks for sharing. The right piece will come along. Good your ex tsuba is still about within the community. I’m sure he would be happy to share the pic, what a nice piece. Mark Quote
Curran Posted May 24, 2020 Report Posted May 24, 2020 The one on Yahoo!Japan was rather small at 6.5 cm or so? I'd shown it to a friend, but neither of us was interested in buying it. The NMB owned O-tachi tsuba of which I shared a picture was about 1cm thick and HEAVY, with a weight around 13.5 oz (400-450grams?). That was about 3x to 4x the weight of an Edo tsuba. For current reasons, I'm no longer actively collecting. Still, if the owner of that O-tachi wanted to trade with me- it is one I wouldn't mind owning again. I only know of about 5 or 6 good examples like it in the ownership of non Japanese. Outside of books, I have never seen one of the original full koshirae. Another stealth NMB member has had the pleasure of handling a few of them in Japan. 1 Quote
Chishiki Posted May 24, 2020 Author Report Posted May 24, 2020 Hi Curren. The reason I am wanting this style of tsuba is to complete a possible muromachi period koshirae. (Just arrived today. Research starting). Tsuka and saya matching..just need a tsuba. My focus is more on armour these days but sometimes you just have to make a move and hope for the best. The size of that tsuba on yahoo is about right for me. Mine is a shortish koshirae. Mark Quote
Curran Posted May 24, 2020 Report Posted May 24, 2020 The size of that tsuba on yahoo is about right for me. Then I will keep that in mind. The smaller ones are more common. If making a koshirae, please consider that these tsuba often seem to have had large seppa (larger than the tsuka crossection) and that the seppa seemed to have a continuation of the tsuba design on them. Quote
Chishiki Posted May 25, 2020 Author Report Posted May 25, 2020 Then I will keep that in mind. The smaller ones are more common. If making a koshirae, please consider that these tsuba often seem to have had large seppa (larger than the tsuka crossection) and that the seppa seemed to have a continuation of the tsuba design on them. A collector friend told me about the design regarding the seppa. I guess finding a tsuba with seppa from the muromachi period is mission impossible. We can wish and hope. Mark Quote
b.hennick Posted May 25, 2020 Report Posted May 25, 2020 Danny Massey from nihontocraft.com has a nice tsuba with great seppa. http://nihontocraft.com/Myochin_Tsuba.htm It has an ana for a kozuka so you might not want it. Quote
Curran Posted May 25, 2020 Report Posted May 25, 2020 I guess finding a tsuba with seppa from the muromachi period is mission impossible. Appropriate seppa can be made. They also pop up. I had this tsuba, and another collector ended up with matching seppa. The tsuba had been sold on to a collector in Japan before I saw the seppa here in the West. Otherwise, I would have made effort to reunite them. Quote
Pete Klein Posted May 25, 2020 Report Posted May 25, 2020 Mark - try contacting Boris via his webpage: https://www.tosoguya.com/ This is his primary area of study and he is highly qualified to be able to assist you. Feel free to mention my referral. Quote
Chishiki Posted May 26, 2020 Author Report Posted May 26, 2020 Danny Massey from nihontocraft.com has a nice tsuba with great seppa. http://nihontocraft.com/Myochin_Tsuba.htm It has an ana for a kozuka so you might not want it. thanks Barry. Yes after one with no kozuka ana. Interesting piece though. Mark Quote
Chishiki Posted May 26, 2020 Author Report Posted May 26, 2020 Appropriate seppa can be made. They also pop up. I had this tsuba, and another collector ended up with matching seppa. The tsuba had been sold on to a collector in Japan before I saw the seppa here in the West. Otherwise, I would have made effort to reunite them. Thanks Curran. I’m really enjoying the hunt. It’s just a matter of time. I do have a jeweller who works for a reasonable rate. He will be my contact for making seppa. I do keep thinking of the tsuba you sold to a member here. Such an interesting piece. Let him know he has a home for it if he wants to move it on Quote
Chishiki Posted May 26, 2020 Author Report Posted May 26, 2020 Mark - try contacting Boris via his webpage: https://www.tosoguya.com/ This is his primary area of study and he is highly qualified to be able to assist you. Feel free to mention my referral. Thanks Pete. I have read Boris’ contributions here, a real depth of knowledge in early fittings. Thanks for the link. 1 Quote
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